Anyone who knows me, also knows how much I love my dogs, and the length and expense I go to , to keep them happy and healthy. Beverley Manners August 26th 2009
The Australian Labradoodle’s unique connectedness to humans makes them yearn to be near you. The most cruel thing that could happen to the Australian Labradoodle would be to deprive it of human companionship. If you want a dog to live outside and are not prepared to put in the time and effort to make it a true family member then you should not consider an Australian Labradoodle. Beverley Manners website 2009.
Taking our cue from the Guide Dogs Program, Rutland Manor pioneered the Guardian Home Concept with the breeding of Australian Labradoodles, in keeping with our dislike of dogs being kept in a “kennel” environment. This practice has now become popular accross the world and helps ensure the quality of life for breeding dogs. Beverley Manners website 2009
Rutland Manor has always had open doors (and gates) and so many people from around Australia and other countries have stayed here and seen exactly how the dogs really are kept and treated. The only thing that is more surprising than the vicious attack of Debra Tranter (whose motive is that she WANTS every breeder shut down because she says dogs should not be bred while there is a dog still in a shelter) is that anyone actually believes this rubbish when they have not seen for themselves. Beverley Manners July 1st 2009.
It may help to set your mind at rest about the true practices of Rutland Manor, to know that the Monash University in Melbourne recently approached me to ask for my assistance in developing a research project on the cognitive behavior of puppies from birth to weaning. They have visited my property on three occasions and we are expecting this project to cover a number of months. The outcomes of the research may be used to frame the federal code of practice for the raising of puppies, which is something that has not been done before. It is most unlikely that Monash would have proceeded to work with Rutland Manor if conditions here were as some have claimed. Of course it is up to you whether you choose to believe unsubstantiated and shockingly inaccurate gossip, or whether the above information may ease your mind.
Beverley Manners July 1st 2009
MONASH UNIVERSITY’S REPLY
Monash University is not conducting any research at Rutland Manor nor in association with Rutland Manor. When you brought to our attention the use of Monash University’s name on the website in question the proprietor was conducted. I noted Monash’s name was removed but the website still refers to “university studies”. I have undertaken a resarch of the scientific literature and have found no reference to Rutland Manor and any university studies and therefore cannot verify the claim on the website
Regards
Simon Barrett, Manager Research Ethic and Compliance, Monash University.
THE TRUTH CANNOT BE CHANGED UNTIL IT CAN BE SEEN
Over the last few months a team of activists have been inspecting Rutland Manor to document the dogs living conditions and violations to the Code of Practice for Breeding and Rearing Establishments. During this time Beverley Manners has continued to publicly attack those people who know the truth and are speaking out. Beverley seems to spend more time on the computer in damage control then actually looking after her dogs.
The team has taken hundreds of photos and hours of video footage and it is clearly obvious that these dogs who have made Beverley Manners a millionaire live in filthy squalor.
The pens are tiny with barely enough room for the raised shredded beds. There is no warm bedding at all for these dogs who are freezing in this weather. On some occasions when the team inspected the property it was a bitterly cold 2 degrees.
One of the most distressing things witnessed was the claw marks around all 4 walls of each dogs pen. Confinement has obviously damaged these poor dogs who have nothing to do except scratch at their 4 walls.
The larger dogs have more room, they are housed inside a tin shed with concrete floors and nothing but shredded beds to sit on to get them of the cold filthy concrete.
The team report an overwhelming stench from the sheds and that “our hands were black just from patting the dogs, some of the dogs have mats in their coats the size of my fist”. The dogs were “incredibly desperate for attention and would lick our faces constantly and lean up against us desperate for some cuddles and love”.
YOU CAN HELP CLOSE DOWN THIS PUPPY FARM!!!
Email Phil Stone, Director of Planning and Information and David Powell CEO of Baw Baw Shire Council.
bawbaw@bawbawshire.vic.gov.au
Politely ask that they withdraw Rutland Manors permit due to repeated violations to the code of practice, such as back to back breeding of the dogs with no rest in between litters, underage breeding from as young as 8 months and illegal debarking of all the dogs. Beverley Manners has even “rescued” a dog from a pound and bred 55 puppies fom her and then sold the puppies for between $1800-$2500 with pedigrees!! Beverley is a compulsive liar and a master at manipulating the truth to save her million dollar business.
THESE DOGS DO NOT HAVE A VOICE AND THEY NEED YOU TO SPEAK FOR THEM
Update 31st August 2009
Overnight Beverley has updated her website with more lies as we expected. 
The photos of kennels displayed on her website as “demolished and rebuilt” are correct ( a very old photograph above that Beverley has published on her website). However our photographs were taken inside these “rebuilt kennels” not the outside, and we photographed the name of each dog on the kennel door.
Beverley claims on her website that in one picture a “poor traumatized little dog is being dragged by the throat”. I am sure I dont need to explain this to regular readers but for Beverleys sake and her diminishing supporters sake here’s the facts. The dog in question is Mask, (Rutlands Lil Masquerade) the activists noted that Mask had mats the size of their fist as they were patting her, they were patting her under her chin to check for mats but also to give her some much needed attention and love.
There are two large sheds on the property containing most of the dogs( pictured here). There is a “nursery shed” capable of holding about 4 dogs and their puppies (currently has Kirsty, Shania, Fashion and Beauty). There are 4 large tin sheds down the back where the large adult males are kept (near Jag, the Rottie guard dog) and there are 2 outdoor pens where we filmed five 12 week old puppies left outside in the rain.
Beverley claims we moved dogs and placed them in unused sheds with old beds waiting for disposal? Where would we move over 20 dogs from ? and why would we move dogs? We photographed and filmed every area of the property exactly as it was. After 18 years we are not about to destroy our credibility by falsifying the evidence and using “fabricated photographs”
Beverley you know very well that what we photographed is true and correct, you have no other areas to keep all these dogs. Shame on you for making up such lies.
The activists did not see Happy (pound puppy), Siggy, Brolly or Anya. Now lets see if Beverley accuses us of stealing these dogs? Where are the dogs Beverley, especially pound puppy, Happy. As for stealing name tags, what for? we simply photographed them all?
This morning the RSPCA confirmed to me the photos are exactly what they have witnessed on their inspections. However as long as the dogs have shelter and food/water they cannot act under the Prevention of Cruelty To Animals Act.
Shame on you Beverley for spending the time to make up lies on the internet rather than get out there and give these dogs a decent bed at the very least. After all you used to support and promote this website, before you were caught out.
I feel extremely angry and saddened for these dogs and the millions that suffer daily world wide, all in the name of greed and profit.
The old saying of a picture speaks a thousand words is so true.
Le’s all do our best to rid our communities of puppy farmers.
We have a very long way to go but this is a start.
The pictures are dreadful.If Rutland Manor is put out of business because of breaking local regulations, it will be no more than they deserve.In my opinion, both dogs and people have been shown no respect by these kennels.
Those poor dogs - it is heart breaking.
They are merely commodities; inanimate objects viewed as dollar signs through the distorted vision of Beverley Manners and others like her. Individuals who selectively ignore the fact overbreeding results in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of abandoned healthy Australian dogs each year.
How amazing if each of these beautiful animals could have the experience of a loving & forever home.
Oh Beverly you are so very cruel. My heart is breaking for Mask as it was the first time I saw a photo of her with her mattered coat and cowered down frightened posture. Seeing Winnie’s daughter Willow made me feel ill too – knowing she will continue to be abused as Winnie was. How could you have young puppies outside – and in this weather. How can you not have warm clean bedding in with these dogs. Do they not earn their keep Beverly ?You keep all the males together – what about fighting when bitches are in season – are you mad ? And what you evil woman have you done with Happy, Siggy, Brolly and Anya – disposing of the evidence Beverly ? These photos are NOT manufactured as the ‘settings’ are as RSPCA have confirmed. I trust more and more photos are published and you drown in your own very elaborate web of lies and cruelty.
I hope the Labradoodle breeders of this country are as outraged as I am and stirred into coming forward and speaking up for your breed.
Well done at exposing yet another horrific puppy farm, no doubt the authorities will ignore once again. When will they wake up and stop issuing permits to dog pimps!
What a disgrace! This woman needs to just give up and get those dogs into a home away from her greedy hands
It is ‘Notorious Militant Animal Activists’ such as Debra Tranter who are the only hope that most dogs in puppy farms have. Thank God for her, and all people like her, who have the strength of character, selflessness and love of dogs that propels them to expose this trade in misery.
She is breeding thousands of pups in these conditions because the public is not aware of how these dogs get treated. Who buys these dogs? unsuspecting people. if no one bought the poor things Beverley Manners would not be in business. so the public have to be educated! mass educated to stop this type of industry. its the same in the petshop people should be aware and stop buying these dogs and pups. one of the doggy website in australia in the forefront for pet owners and registered pedigree breeders is DOGZONLINE, i invite anyone to get an education about the right ways to care, buy, train dogs.
also labradoodles are not a breed, they are a cross between a poodle and a labrador, two breeds that have been selectively bred in their own right. Oodle dogs are not breeds they are cross breeds with very high price tags as im sure anyone viewing this site would know.
regards
Stephanie you are right ‘Dogs Online’ is a very responsible site for registered breeders such as myself and they show a lot of initiative by including a rescue page for dogs which caters for genuine rescues, not ex show dogs. Yes Labradoodles and all the ‘oodle’ type dogs are a cross bred dog as were once all purebreds including the ones I own and show at one stage, albeit a couple of hundred years ago. The breed – pure or not does not alter or change the level of suffering of the dog however, and that is what is important here. I too have serious concerns of the health complications of a lot of cross bred dogs, but this is through human irresponsibility often drive by greed and the dogs should not have to keep paying the ultimate price. The public do need to get educated and it is only through these types of forums and people like you talking about this topic to all you can, that the public will be educated. Yes I would encourage the public to deal with registered and responsible breeders but I also always encourage the public to look at the many hundreds and thousands of beautiful dogs desperately needing homes in this country’s shelters and pounds – they also must be given priority.
If we followed the advice of ’shelters’ who have to kill so many healthy abandoned dogs each and every week we would ” neither breed nor buy whilst homeless pets die”. Our family includes a number of rescued dogs and I cannot comprehend how anyone can consider breeding and therefore add to the already over supply of canines given there are inadequate good homes for the existing numbers.
People like Beverley Manners have never received one dollar out of our family - there are so many more abandoned animals we would love to save and to support a puppy farmer, breeder or pet shops who deal in live animal trading would be a travesty.
Jane makes a lot of very valid points and I too have rescued dogs and have had many over the years – some, I have been able to suitably rehome after vet treatment and care and some, because of serious health issues or because they were just too timid or had been through too much, stayed with me forever because they were settled. Not all, but a lot of good breeders take a similar approach and everyone must be given choice. Not all individuals and not all families are suitable for adopted/abandoned animals – thankfully many are. I know that some of the rescues I have personally taken would never have passed the pound/shelter screening as being suitable for adoption, but in the right environment with me or other very special individuals and families they were wonderful with a lot of love and patience. I too would never support or purchase from someone like Beverly Manners or any pet shop who sells live animals. I do however believe that some good and responsible registered breeders are worthy of support on the basis that they too promote adoption from shelters/pounds, adoption of rescues from their own breed, and do the right and responsible thing for their breed before they do the best thing for them personally. Stopping and closing down people like Beverly Manners and many like her is about a united effort from a number of people with a collection of experience and knowledge who all share the common goal of what is best for the animals at risk. There are no class boundaries or distinction when it comes to loving animals or opposing cruelty and irresponsible breeding.
I for one has been duped by this so called breeder when in truth she is nothing more than a common theif. She has lied to everyone and now the truth is out. I once was an ardent supporter, but I am not a fool and I love my dogs, although now I know they are “not” in any way labradoodles but just ordinary poodle mixes. I will never buy another dog from any breeder and will do as I have done in the past, rescue from shelters. I truely believe all of this greed from breeding is directly causing more and more dogs to be euthanized every year. I am a member and supporter of the ASPCA and and it is my duty as well to help uncover animal abuse. I cannot sit by when the truth is told and be silent for the fear of not being a member of the Bev flock. It has always been about the dogs and NOT Beverley.
Heike it is about education, choice and people doing their homework and taking responsibility for doing their own homework. Not all breeders breed for greed. Many like me actually are constantly out of pocket doing the right thing with their own dogs or the rescues - many rescues I have had to pay huge amounts of money for for from puppy farms just to get them out, then huge amounts of money in vet care, then lost my job and income for complaining loudly to the local ‘responsible’ council (my then employer). I am registered because I am responsible and believe and ‘live’ the Code of Ethics. I am also registered because this allows me to enjoy showing my dogs - something I love to do and they love to do. Many of us are members of many groups - all who support animal welfare and many of us do many good things. You are correct, this is about the dogs and of course you will through your experience have little trust in ever again buying from a breeder. I understand that Heike. I too as a registered breeder was ‘ripped off’ with false pedigrees from another registered breeder. I was never able to prove it in spite of a 3 year investigation, however I did what was right for me and I withdrew my dogs from the show ring, had all desexed and warned others as best I could. All these dogs are dearly loved by me and all will stay with me forever. Please don’t class all breeders as being the same.
Hi, there are registered breeders who breed for the love of the breed not for the pet market or money, they breed dogs that are healthy specimens they do research into bloodlines and do their damnedest to make sure that they have their chosen breed at heart. what they breed is only for their own small show team who they travel around the country with. this does not compare to someone like this Beverley who profits off the backs of her dogs and does not consider health issues, cannot consider bloodlines, they are cross breeds with no pedigrees to pin point health genetics and eradicate.
this is the difference. and yes, there are registered breeders out there that are the same as this Beverley too.
True, if they are a true breeder with the dogs at heart they have no problem in promoting rescues, i myself have been a registered breeder 30 years, i have owned cross breeds, I have fostered, i have rescued dogs from so called registered breeders who should be ashamed to call themselves as such! i have owned rescues, i own a rescue now who was abused, first and foremost if someone comes to me asking what is the best dog to own, i always try and steer them towards a shelter first.
Not all registered breeders (the only breeder anyone should consider going to for a pedigree puppy) breed for money alone.
regards
I am in the States and also have been duped by this breeder.
In 2000 we got a marvelous doodle from RM–quite possibly the nicest doodle in the world.
We wanted another doodle in 2005 and we sent a $400 US deposit to Beverly. The day before the dog was to be sent to us, I got an email saying the dog has a crooked/bent tail??? I begged for more information. I called, cried, wept and screamed. But I thought fast and called my vet who said that the dog might need surgery and/or could be in pain. I went nuts and called RM. Shortly thereafter, I got an email from Beverly saying I would/could never have another dog from RM because I upset Beverly’s receptionist. She said she would take a SMALL service fee and return my money. I got $199 US back and no dog. She took $201 US from me and broke my heart.
In 2006 we got a doodle from a reputable breeder in California.
When does Beverly’s abuse of dogs and people end?
Beverley’s web if lies and deceit will sadly continue as she is very experienced in ways to manipulate the ’system’ and people.
The authorities have been powerless to act because the dogs have acceptable body condition. They are not able to prosecute based on the matted coats - because that is the way the Australian laws are written.
As soon as Beverley became aware of Debra and her Team’s actions she hurriedly shaved coats, cleaned kennels and purchased new bedding for thee dogs.
It was not important enough to care for the dogs out of love and devotion but it was very important to rush out and do the right thing to attempt to discredit Debra.
Meaning that the dogs and their wellbeing was actually considered out of HATRED for someone rather than the love of the dogs.
This just proves how horrid this woman actually is.
Beverley has accused Debra or one of her team of abusing little Mask (Masquerade) in the photo.
This is clearly confirmation from Beverley herself that this IS Mask and the photo has been taken on RM property.
The point she seems to miss is the condition of the Dog (Dogs).
These dogs have been kept in shocking conditions and she should be stopped immediately.
If the Authorities are powerless to act then we as concerned and duped Labradoodle Lovers can act with our voices and our cheque books.
STOP buying RM puppies and Dogs.
If there are no buyers then the breeding program will have to stop.
NOTE: As if Debra or any of her team are going to mistreat a dog while filming evidence of neglect. Debra has a long history of experience exposing breeders such as Beverley and is a voice for the dogs who have no voice and are used and abused in the name of money.
Beverley SHOULD feel shame and humiliation at being exposed but the hatred and lies will continue behind her supporters backs - WE know the truth.
If you are a member of a Labradoodle association then urge them to STOP registering RM Dogs from 21 September 2009.
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!
Lisa my intention was not to lump all breeders in one bag, my own breeder is a lovely woman with wonderful dogs as are my two I purchased from her. She was duped by this woman too. She lives close by so I have been to her home several times and her dogs live in her home as beloved pets. I am sure there are many, many like her out there.
Marlene, the end of the abuse will only come about if more people like you come forward and tell the truth!
I received an information pack from Beverley Manners on 22nd August which still included the “claim” about the approach from Monash University.
This woman is an absolute disgrace. So glad I did not proceed with her…i was nearly sucked in. Thank you for this website.
Disgusting! Internet sites are just the same as pet shops, they are all just a front for the puppy farmers
dont breed or buy while homeless animals die!!!!
I have written to the Council and I hope everyone does. We all need to keep writing! The elected officers of Council must listen to public opinion and close down these places
I have also written to Council, good work once again guys!
IF ONLY THIS RUTLAND MANOR SAGA COULD BE PUBLICISED it would be a major negative for puppy farms, pet shops and the overbreeding of canines. A dog such as Shania could become a symbol of the lengths a breeder will go to for profit.
Buckley is the adorable little pup who was brutally tortured when his ears and tail was hacked off with a pair of scissors @ 14 weeks of age.
He was taken to the North Melbourne’s Lost Dog’s Home whose general manager recently stated “Buckley has become a pin-up pup for animal cruelty and his story has prompted people to think about giving a shelter dog a second chance rather than buying from a pet shop or breeder”.
The Lost Dog’s Home has sold out of stray dogs every weekend since Buckley’s arrival !
Great job guys in uncovering this horror. I am saddened, angry, frustrated…all at once. Ms Manners is a far from civilised human being, who exists merely to exploit those who cannlt speak for themselves. She should be well and truly locked away for this behaviour. All these dogs want, and deserve is love and a warm house, not indifference and a cement floor.
Have just written to the council.
Australian laws are strict in terms of the RSPCA to the american people reading this, i have known of some “breeders” registered and/or backyard breeders , who have abused the system and their dogs for years while people in who know about it, stand by and do nothing.
RSPCA gets informed and acts on a tip off, they have confiscated animals and do a raid when the breeder least expects it. I have known this to happen many times. So RSPCA do act when necessary. i got told that they do nothing and let it all happen not in the cases i’ve monitored.
if enough people write to the RSPCA as well as the council maybe they will take it all serious enough, councils acts on current animal laws and haven’t the resources to do anything and usually its a complaint about overbreeding which isn’t against the law as many know, the councils usually back the puppy farms as that is revenue for them with council registrations and also the vets we found will do the same. Still Wellington Shire council backs the puppy farmer down there in Sale! they have told us they have had many complaints about the man but they say their hands are tied.
if the breeders are abusing the animals in terms of care, it will all come out in the wash eventually. everything will die down and she’ll go back to her nasty ways and hopefully then the RSPCA or other animal groups can step in.
we only hope for the sake of the animals.
Beverley (and your supporters) you all seem to be missing the point here
This has NOTHING to do with puppies that you bred and have been raised and trained by loving caring people.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the manner in which you neglect and disregard your dogs when the camera shutter is not ‘on’.
You have admitted that the photographs taken by Debra are YOUR dogs on YOUR property - you have failed to explain why you have allowed your dogs and facilities to become so neglected.
Instead of setting up your supporters as ’sock puppets’ to post on other forums - why don’t you just retire. It is obvious that the dogs welfare and care has become too much for you.
You have made your fortune out of your dogs over the years - maybe it is time to be honest with yourself and admit you are not able to cope with them all anymore.
I know one thing Jarvis Beverley can cope with very well, her expanding bank account.
I would like to see some posts from any families currently in Australia, who have personally visited the entire RM grounds and inspected it, both while their puppy was being whelped, and at pick up time. I would like to hear from the local dog owners of RM themselves, 1) Of the conditions they saw, 2) Of their dog’s temperament and health 3) Of their experience in dealing with the RM staff. I am determined to remain neutral on this issue until I fly their myself, or until I have available to me a large body of neutral, unbiased evidence. Namely, I would like to see/challenge Beverly give an unedited video guided tour–by a neutral camera crew,(to be made public) of her entire property once per month for 2 years. I think a consistent media presence would be the only way anyone can know for sure. I don’t think bashing anyone on the internet is appropriate, ethical, or mature behavior. Here in the USA we are presumed innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around…. Just food for thought people… BTW, I own one ALD from a reputable US breeder, she is a darling and I love her to pieces, I have no clue if she has bloodlines from RM, and frankly, I don’t care. She arrived to us healthy and well socialized, and continues to astound all by her beauty and intelligence, as well as her intuitive playful, and gentle manor. I love this breed of dog and I sincerely hope that all breeders all over the world treat their dogs as beloved family pets, not “bred heifers” in the bran… (I live on a dairy farm)
The spin doctor is up to it again!! Now accusing Debra and her associates of dragging dogs out of their “bedrooms”, lol, more like “prison cells” and staging the photos. Give me a break. What I see is horrible conditions of both dogs and kennels. Dogs matted horribly and lonely. If Fashion was about to have puppies, why the heck is she alone in a cold, dark KENNEL!!!! Hmmmmm so much for guardian homes. In my eyes as well as the others here, she has to expose people like you because the authorities won’t!!! Animal cruelty is what you do even if it’s not against the law!! However debarking and back to back breeding are. Breeding a pound puppy, selling it as your “pure” ASD is fraud!
francine n
All good comments and all good ideas but Beverly Manners doesn’t (in spite of what she states), allow in neutral unbiased people. It is always a staged and very managed affair. Any photos or video will be ‘manufactured’ like some of the past photos of the outside of kennels with pretty pot plants which hid the filthy inside kennel conditions, underage breeding, continual back to back breeding, debarked dogs, matted coats, sad, frightened and neglected dogs that spend their lives in a cruel puppy farm environment. Beverly Manners is guilty francine n – do you think statements made by breeders, authorities and a growing number of people are all just made up and invented ?. Do you think anyone in their right mind would allow such statements to be published on a public web site if such statements could not be substantiated ?. As for “I don’t think bashing anyone on the internet is appropriate, ethical or mature behavior “, take it from me as one of the many recipients of threatening emails from Beverly Manners, this cruel and vile puppy farmer wrote the book on inappropriate and unethical behavior. You obviously love your dog and I have no doubt the majority of pet owners (as opposed to other puppy farmers), of RM puppies love theirs too. You may not care where they all came from. I do – I care about the puppies/dogs parents. That is what this is all about – the ongoing cycle of abuse !
if this person is not looking after their dogs, dogs coats matted and the photos tell it all - i don’t see water bowls and adequate conditions, so this person needs to be caught out with the autorities if that is what she is doing. then RSPCA should be contacted in the sly to do an independant assessment, i have contacted them on numberous occassions about people that call themselves custodians of purebreeds and breeders and they have always acted which i commend, i know that area where this Beverley resides and its not all that far from Melbourne down the freeway so not that hard to get to from Melbourne, i don’t know any breeders that breed for profit and breed Designer breeds because they aren’t a “breeder” they are people who just mate two dogs togetehr and market them for money. bottom line is: RSPCA do act and quickly if these animals are not adquately looked after. It sounds like this breeder is in the with the council as the breeder is in Sale - we’ve had first hand experience with this for many years, so councils are useless by pass them, because they only look at profits like the x-bred breeder.
The labradoodle is not a breed of dog it is a cross breed, if you are lucky to get a healthy specimen it is just that LUCKY. the only reason these cross breeds are bred is for money not to benefit a dog breed as they are a labrador cross poodle. Labradoodle, or any oodle dogs started in Australia, i watched it from 1997 take off as soon as Don Burke marketted them from his show, he did that to spite the purebred pedigree breeders of one breed because they didn’t like what he put on his show about their breed which was incorrect.
so the Designer oodle dogs were born from Australia and now are all over the world. Health can’t be concentrated on because they have no pedigrees to research you need these to be able to pin-point and most aren’t interested in all that just the money side which is the only reason these dogs are bred.
Labradors and poodles are breeds of pure bred dogs in their own rights so why buy for thousands of $ a random cross of these breeds when you can have the real thing and have it selectively bred for temperament, health and genetics.
Julie -anne in answer to your comment in 8th of September, most of the puppy farms we are speaking off reside in Gippsland, Victoria and they inturn supply petshops in Melbourne.
It seems “country” councils are not concerned about animal overpopulation and first hand experience tells me that they are totally ignorant to it.
they mainly see people like us on this website as “extremists” and menaces and they believe it is all silly and insignificant.
but the rate in Victoria alone of the animals they put down each year speaks for itself. more has to be done about people like this Beverley who only breed cross breeds and markets them for money.
these are the dogs they are more likely to end up in shelters across the state, you would be hard pressed to see a registered breeders dogs in these facilities because ,mostly more consideration is given to who owns their dogs as opposed to just selling to anyone that has money in their hand from a puppy dealer.
in answer also to Dannielle not all People that have a website for their dogs are puppy dealers, i have a website for my registered pedigree dogs and i do not have anything for sale never have for many years i may have a pup available once every 5 years or so, i use my website to promote my breed and give people information on how to find an honest trust worthy “breeder” of a purebred and also use it to promote adoption of strays and fostered dogs normally crosses, the vast majority are.
I don’t use my website for my own gain. and….there are also puppy dealers in the registered circles too who exploit pedigree breeds.
I agree. No self respecting breeder leaves a bitch close to whelping outside in a pen on it’s own. I thought you would bring them into the house or at least in a warm area close by so they can be monitored throughout the night. Thats what good, caring breeders do. Shame on you RM. You not only breed a horse with cancer, but you leave your heavily pregnant females, with days to go, in yards outside on their own. A friend of mine was on the wait list. I have talked her into cancelling.
You are correct Jenny no self respecting breeder would ever leave a bitch due to whelp on her own. They must be comfortable, nurtured, feel safe and be monitored day and night and they can always whelp early. For the first 10 days of life puppies (all puppies) can’t retain their own body heat and this is why a heated whelping box is critical.
I am very pleased your friend has cancelled her proposed RM purchase.
Francine N.
Nice to read your post, you make some excellant points….it seems to me that most of the people voicing opinions and making proclimations about RM and Beverley have never been there or met her. I am buying a pup from her and I have been to her property and I have seen her dogs and her kennels and I completely and utterley disagree with the majority of information being posted on this site in regards to Beverley and her dogs.
I agree with you about bashing someone on the internet it is inapropriate, unethical and imature. Tell me when did animal rights start to come before human rights. Activism should not become terrorism.
Yes Jenny you are soo correct, leaving a heavily pregnant dog outside in a Kennel is cruel and constitutes disreguard for the dogs safety and welfare, but what does Beverley do she blames others for her dogs plight. NO Beverley, YOU left her alone and in a cold, dark kennel. I applaud your friend for cancelling her purchase, at least she can sleep at night knowing she is not part of the problem but part of the solution. We need more stories like her’s so we can stop her from breeding more innocent dogs.
Heike, it was not long ago you were on this site telling people to check their facts….now it is you who should check yours. You used to argue with logic and sense for what you believed to be true, now you are blindly repeating the words of others. Think for yourself and do not base your opinions on the words of others.
If you can not go and check the facts for yourself you should stop talking about it.
Francine you have made a valid point about a video tour every month!! Doubt it will ever happen, Beverley is the one that bashes people on the internet just google her name and see all the defamatory slurs and threats of legal action she has made over the years.
she is well and truly hidden now.
Kerry are you actually saying that people shouldn’t speak on behalf of animals that are abused ? Have you seen all the human rights sites on the net? Humans and animals require a voice when they are abused. Intelligent people can actually fight many issues at once Kerry - injustice anywhere is a worthy fight.
As for you purchasing a RM puppy - shame on you for failing to take off your rose colored glasses. What you didn’t see on your visit to RM was the fake pedigrees, back to back breeding, (Poor Shania !) underage breeding, did you happen to see Happy the pound puppy ? bet you didn’t
Oh well enjoy your POODLE and you have just killed a dog in a pound, congratulations, something to go home and tell your kids, hope they are proud of their ignorant mother.
Hey Heike it sounds like Kerry is a touch angry that you educated yourself to the facts and had the courage to speak out
Truth hurts hey Kerry
Go home and tell the kids you killed a dog today
Wow Peter I guess any chance of an educated debate is pretty much out of the question with you…The truth hurts? What do you know about the truth in this particular situation?
Have you ever been to RM? Have you ever met Beverley?
PS Peter..last I checked Heike was a very articulate woman more than capable of responding for herself.
Your spot on there Kerry, I have found supporters of dog pimps to be very uneducated - hence why they support animal abuse by lining the pockets of the dog pimps.
Yes have been to RM many times
Yes have had the misfortune of meeting Bev, funny it was always late afternoon when she dragged her self out of bed, she never knew which dog was which, constantly had them debarked because she couldn’t stand the barking. I witnessed many things Kerry over a long period of time, have you ? or did you get the “guided tour”
Ah ha, Kerry aka Kate, Know of your visit to RM, I will not stop talking about what Beverley has done. Yes I was an ardent supporter of Bev. I do think for myself, that is why I have come to my own conclusions. Back to back breeding is wrong and illegal, debarking of dogs is wrong and illegal, fake pedigrees is wrong and illegal, breeding of a pound puppy is fraud. The list goes on, and there is much more Kerry aka Kate. Can you justify this?? I don’t spout other’s opinions and have made an informed opinion. Have you ever wondered why Australians are against her farm and only her supporters are in the USA?? Hmmmm, just a wonder. Kate Yarra is a wonderful dog as is my two, but it just doesnt justify what she has done.
Kate, I am NOT blindly repeating what other’s have said!! I resent that. I am speaking for myself. You may belive what you like. Bev is a puppy farmer, you may not like that but it is true! Look at her history, 400 puppies sold in 2005. Is that for the betterment of the breed?? Back to back breeding, underage breeding, selling dogs at 8mths old to other countries for 20k. What more do you need for evidence?? Wait, more shocking evidence of her cruelty will be revealed!!
hard to have a discussion when my posts are deleted….
Heike this is not Kate….again jumping to conclusions.
One more point, we have a responsibility to protect the rights of animals against the humans that abuse and exploit them, animals are NOT property to be done with what you like and I DO NOT believe humans are above animals, so we have DO a fundamental difference in our beliefs. Humans have laws and other humans to protect them from abuse, animals are left at the mercy of HUMANS to protect them and give them a voice, which sadly Bev’s dogs do not have anymore. So spare me of the poor Bev speech, she has no one but herself to blame.
Kerry many who have made comments have met Beverly and seen in person the cruel and inhumane treatment of her own RM dogs all for the RM $. Other like me have offered to go out independently – NO RESPONSE from Beverly, so we can only try Kerry. You are entitled to disagree with other comments but I would also question whether you saw and ignored all the illegally debarked dogs and the coat conditions of many of the RM dogs, not to mention the pound dog and her offspring, the false pedigrees, the lies. Do you seriously consider this all to be OK ? Obviously you do if you are still purchasing a pup and continuing to feed the RM bank account. As for others ‘bashing’ Beverly on the internet, that is the pot calling the kettle black ! Beverly Manners is a master at not just bashing, but threatening and intimidating and the uses others to do the same ‘dirty work’ on her behalf. The only terrorism here is what has been inflicted on the RM dogs Kerry. As for your comments to Heike and Peter – they too have opinions and are entitled to express them. Heike has stated more than once that she previously supported Beverly Manners. Unlike you Heike has educated herself and been brave and confident enough with her own personal conviction to form a different view and say so. This takes guts Kerry. And yes the RM dogs too have rights Kerry and they can’t talk or communicate because the woman you so admire and defend removed their ability to do so ever again, so we will all continue to advocate for their rights against the rights of someone like Beverly Manners who has misused and abused her rights in every capacity and at every opportunity for the $.
Lisa Ryan
I would love to have a meaningful conversation about all of this, infact that is the very reason I first came to this site, but it is impossible to do so when my responses are moderated/deleted.
I have said nothing any more or less offensive than your own comments. I don’t use profanity of anykind. So why are only some of my responses posted?
I believe I too am being brave and confident in coming here and trying to have a conversation, in trying to seek information/knowledge. You should not be so quick to attack just because someone is voicing an opinion different from your own….I thought this was an open forum to discuss/comment on the above article by Debra Tranter.
I guess I was mistaken.
Well said Lisa. Kerry my “opinions” came from research starting long before this all came to light here, I was always curious where my dogs ancestors came from, after I purchased them from a local breeder I began to look up their lineage. Mine are from TP and RM and the whole controversy surrounding TP was coming to light at that time. The sire of my first dog was exported to Canada and I researched his story. I found out he had been abused at the hands of his previous owners and he came from essentially a puppy farm. He still to this day is deathly afraid of all men. This is what started me on the road to finding out the “truth” about RM. The more I found out about Beverley and what she has done to other breeders that she sold HER dogs to, the more I wondered what the heck is going on. She has spent years bashing other breeders here in the US and telling everyone only HER dogs were pure ASD’s and everyone else just bred copies. I have seen first hand what she does to anyone disagreeing with her or asking questions about pedigrees. She has been caught in many lies and called out and she just banned them instead of telling the truth. Now I know why. Finding out she bred a pound puppy and selling the offspring as pure ASD’s for thousands of dollars and lying about the pedigree did it for me. Next comes the debarking, breeding underage dogs, breeding back to back, selling 400 puppies in one year, when she clearly states on her website, I only breed for the betterment of the breed. Oh lest we not forget she proudly proclaims ” I pioneered the guardian home concept due to the dislike of breeding dogs in a kennel enviroment”, but that is exactly where she has her dogs, in a kennel and then claims the LAW says I have to have them locked up at night. NOOOO, she can have them in a home environment, like my breeder does. These are her words Kerry, not mine. Sorry, but anyone with a lick of common sense can see she is a puppy farmer. I for one being an animal advocate for the ASPCA and only having rescue dogs before cannot sit by and be quiet knowing what I know now. I have lost friends over this and do not take this lightly but in the end I KNOW what Debra stands for is true and right and will continue to advocate for dogs rights against humans that abuse and use them purely for profit. There is no difference between a pet shop and a glossy website, it all amounts to the same in the end, puppy farming.
For the record none of Kerry’s comments have been deleted or moderated?
Then be BRAVE and CONFIDENT Kerry and cancel your puppy order from RM!! Go save a life on deathrow and teach your kids a valuable lesson!
Kerry if none of your comments have been deleted or moderated as you have indicated, I don’t understand your concerns. Your ‘meaningful’ conversation has been “I am buying a pup from her and I have been to her property and I have seen her dogs and her kennels and I completely and utterley disagree with the majority of information being posted on this site in regards to Beverley and her dogs”, and then critiquing and questioning other’s comments. The others – Heike and Peter responded as did I with valid questions about what you have/haven’t witness at RM. You haven’t responded and if you think my comments are offensive or that I use profanity then you obviously haven’t read some of the threatening emails sent out to many by Beverly Manners. My comments are not offensive – they are honest and if you find them offensive I make no apologies for my emotion and determination to protest to anyone who will listen in an endevour to protect the RM dogs from any ongoing cruelty. The cruelty is just not acceptable to me Kerry in any circumstances and purchasing a puppy from someone who in one year alone pumped out 400 puppies without questioning, is just beyond my comprehension and I say that as both a registered breeder and an animal lover. Purchasing a puppy from someone who has admitted to debarking her dogs, breeding from a rescued pound dog and allows her dogs coats to become so mattered they must be shaved is beyond any normal comprehension. I am just saying - consider all of this and ask questions.
If you do indeed wish to have a meaningful conversation on the topic of the RM dogs, and that is the reason you have entered into dialogue – that is to be applauded, but to date I haven’t read anything that indicates that is the case. To then state that only some of your comments have been posted if that is not correct, is going to leave people like me asking questions. I don’t have any problem with anyone that has an opinion different to my own, I have a problem with cruelty to animals. I don’t care about Beverly Manners - she is a dime a dozen. I care about the dogs. If you want to seek information and knowledge, then you need to put the questions I raised in my earlier post to the breeder of the RM pup you intend to purchase and seek the truth. You have the capacity to do this Kerry but only you can do this and make your own decision based on fact, not on what you are shown or told and I would be interested to know the outcome of your own enquiries to broaden this forum.
Kerry sorry for the misidentification, the person mentioned is visiting RM and is getting a pup from there, just a coincendence.
Heike I don’t think it is an issue - Kerry and Kate in spite of all, are still both prepared to feed the RM profit machine and contribute to the ongoing cycle of RM dog abuse. You have simply misidentied Kerry as Kate. Kerry on the other hand has stated her comments on this site have been moderated or deleted. I think your mistake which you have acknowledged, is a little less critical than Kerry’s ‘manipulated’ dishonesty and intentional attempts to divert the focus of this forum from the truth and the facts to ‘poor’ Beverly Manners.
Marlene, I know you have posted on the Doodle Zoo website and they have taken you to task! We all know why Kate and Twyla went to RM, it was NOT to do a so called inspection the kennels, but to aid and abet her in stashing her dogs before the inspection on the 21st. I applaud you for speaking out, I wish others would follow your lead. I know see another spin campaign in under way. We can let them know what has really happened at RM and not let her white wash the truth!!
I think you said it all Heike.
Well said.
To Kerry, please, before you buy a dog from RM if you are in OZ go to http://www.Dogzonline.com.au go to the forums section, or even if you are in US or anywhere - we have many USA/UK members it is interesting, read and educate yourself before you buy, get the real truth about farmed dogs, everything to find out about dogs there, you can ask questions and get answers, educated answers from people who knows dogs inside and out.
Steph, you wasting your time on this one, she has made up her mind, even before posting here. She is haveing none of it and will not be looking elsewhere. She is an ardent supporter of Bev and her puppy farm, after all she has allergies and all. Yeah, that’s a great reason to buy from a puppy farmer.
Well, Kerry is now writing on UK site that her words here were edited, deleted and rewritten!!
What can I say but Kerry is a manipulator
she just wants an RM puppy no matter what price the mother dog pays
oh well debra & heike i did try. lol i will keep on trying with these sorts of people, i just believe education about genetics and how wrong farms is the way to go one person by one person. and some I am getting through to, which I am happy about, its a shame about this kerry i wish she’d wisen up some. you can’t change the whole world can you.
Most civilized people are disgusted at puppy farms, and they help spread the word and that’s what makes the difference to the dogs stuck in these hell holes pumping out puppies.
Kerry is part of the dwindling RM cult and is therefore unable to form her own opinions, she simply repeats the crap the RM spin doctors feed her.
Puppy farming will be abolished, we will win.
Stephanie check out this site and read the story about Rutlands Alecia. She was forced into a life of hell, we need to honor her memory and read her story, Rutlands Alecia will be the catalyst for change. http://stoprutlandmanor.wordpress.com/
it is amazing that she continues to get away with it and lies her way through and out of everything.perfect example of the old witch out of 101 dalmations. thease dogs conditions are hofficic. i no first hand. she needs to be shut down.
I am disgusted that nothing has been done to stop this cruelty and more to the point that people are purchasing puppies from this woman. How can we raise more awareness about this puppy farming? I have already followed the link to request the permit is stopped!!! Is there anything else we can do?